This is the latest of my Debunking American Election Myths series. Previous parts:
- Debunking American Election Myths, Part 1: The Capitol Siege
- Debunking American Election Myths, Part 2: More on the Capitol Siege
- Just A Friendly Reminder
- Debunking American Election Myths, Part 4: The Vice-President’s Powers and Dueling Electors
- Debunking American Election Myths, Part 5: More Votes than Voters?
- The Conspiracy Theory Stopped Being Plausible Long Ago
- Lindell the Clown
- The “Dead Democrat Voters” Who Are Very Much Alive
And none of my articles have been debunked.
My latest fact check is focusing on the common claim, which has been circulating for over 14 months now, that several key battleground states – the ones that ultimately won Joe Biden the presidency – suddenly and mysteriously completely stopped counting around midnight on November 3rd – the day of the election – while Donald Trump was ahead in the count, then resumed counting hours later at 4 AM on the 4th, but when they resumed Biden was mysteriously ahead.
It should be obvious if the vote count has been updated that they didn’t stop counting – especially if the candidate previously in the lead is now trailing, which happens almost every election in most countries and is obviously normal. Apparently, though, the obvious explanation is too much for some to accept, so the states must have simply fabricated the numbers.
One would normally dismiss such sore loser fantasies, but America has a big idiot problem, and the aforementioned conspiracy theory is now serious political discourse (?!), and the fact that the poll workers were updating the count as they counted is not considered evidence that the votes were being counted and that the counting hadn’t stopped (seriously, Idiocracy is now a documentary thanks to Fox and Trump), so one must put a bit more effort into debunking this than pointing out THE BLEEDIN OBVIOUS!
Sigh, deep breaths, think happy thoughts…
Here’s a more detailed explanation as to why the tin foil hat folks are grasping at straws here:
Facebook posts stated on November 4, 2020 in an image:
Six states “decided to stop counting” votes as Donald Trump was “headed for a win” on election night.
A Republican election challenger at right watches over election inspectors as they examine a ballot as votes are counted into the early morning hours on Nov. 4, 2020, at the central counting board in Detroit. (AP)
By Daniel FunkeNovember 4, 2020
Battleground states did not ‘stop counting’ votes on election night when Trump was ahead
IF YOUR TIME IS SHORT
None of the states cited in the post stopped counting votes altogether on Nov. 3.
Election officials in Fulton County, Ga., briefly paused counting ballots after a pipe burst at a facility in Atlanta. North Carolina stopped counting in-person votes once 100% of precincts were reported, but the state is still counting absentee ballots.
Delays in election results are due to an influx of mail-in ballots, spurred by the coronavirus pandemic.
A winner of the presidential election wasn’t declared on Nov. 3, because several states that looked favorable for President Donald Trump “decided to stop counting” votes — that’s what Facebook users are contending.
A Nov. 4 post includes screenshots of purported election results in five battleground states: Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia, North Carolina and Wisconsin. Michigan is listed twice.
“Good morning! And welcome to the BS we all knew was coming,” the caption says. “Trump is headed for a win, so six states just DECIDED TO STOP COUNTING in the wee hours for the first time in an election.”
The post was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.) We found dozens of similar claims using CrowdTangle, a social media insights tool.
(Screenshot from Facebook)
As of 2:25 p.m. EST on Nov. 4, the Associated Press had called only Wisconsin in favor of Joe Biden, the Democratic challenger. None of the other states listed in the Facebook post had been decided. We reached out to the original poster for evidence to support their claim, but we didn’t hear back.
So we decided to take a closer look at whether the states cited in the Facebook post did stop counting ballots overnight on Nov. 3. The short answer is: They didn’t.
Election officials in Fulton County, Ga., briefly paused counting ballots after a pipe burst at a facility in Atlanta. North Carolina stopped counting in-person votes once 100% of precincts were reported.
But none of the states stopped counting votes altogether — and there’s no evidence they tried to swing the results in favor of Biden.
In three states cited in the Facebook post — Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — election officials were not allowed to start tabulating mail-in ballots until Election Day or just before. That resulted in reporting delays overnight on Nov. 3, since mail ballots take more time to count than in-person votes.
“At no point has the counting process stopped since it began at 7 a.m. yesterday morning, which was when, per Michigan election law, it could begin,” said Tracy Wimmer, director of media relations for Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, referring to the morning of Nov. 3.
We reached out to election officials in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, but we haven’t heard back. Archived election results pages for both states show that they continued to count ballots overnight on Nov. 3. The Trump campaign announced Nov. 4 that it was filing a lawsuit to halt the counting of votes in Michigan until it’s granted “meaningful access” to observe the tabulation process.
Election officials in Philadelphia County, a reliably Democratic part of Pennsylvania, told reporters Nov. 4 that they had counted about 141,000 mail-in ballots overnight, and that they still had more than 200,000 to go. As of 2:45 p.m. EST on Nov. 4, about 92% of precincts had reported their in-person votes, and about 41% of mail ballots were outstanding. Wisconsin officials said on the morning of Nov. 4 that they had counted all the ballots, and the AP called the state for Biden at 2:16 p.m. EST.
The situation in the South is a bit different. Georgia allowed election officials to count mail-in ballots before Election Day, but the state faced delays nonetheless.
In Fulton County, the state’s most populous county and home of Atlanta, absentee ballot counting was delayed by four hours after a burst water pipe caused flooding in State Farm Arena, where ballots were being processed. None of the ballots were damaged, but the incident put Fulton — a Democratic stronghold — behind in the vote-counting process. (As of 2:45 p.m. EST on Nov. 4, Fulton County was still counting ballots.)
“A small team of Fulton County Registration & Election workers continued to process absentee ballots overnight last night and a larger team began work at 8:30 a.m.,” said Jessica Corbitt, director of external affairs for Fulton County. “Last night, 74,000 absentee ballots were tabulated (and) included in results. There are approximately 42,400 (ballots that) will be opened, scanned and adjudicated today … Work will continue until completed.”
The only state that stopped counting votes overnight on Nov. 3 was North Carolina — but that doesn’t mean it’s done counting votes, and the halt had nothing to do with Trump being ahead in the state.
“North Carolina stopped counting votes on election night because there were no more votes to count at that time,” said Patrick Gannon, public information director for the state Board of Elections.
In North Carolina, 100% of precincts have reported in-person votes, and the results show that Trump has a slight edge over Biden. But Gannon said county boards of election across the state will now begin counting provisional and absentee ballots that arrive by Nov. 12, as long as they’re postmarked by Election Day.
“Regardless of vote differentials, we never stop counting until all eligible votes are counted and added to the final results,” he said. “The person who you are fact-checking clearly doesn’t understand how elections work.”
The delay in results does not indicate that anything is wrong — rather, it highlights the difficulty of holding an election during the coronavirus pandemic.
“Election results reporting may occur more slowly than prior years,” says the U.S. Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Agency on a “rumor control” page. “This does not indicate there is any problem with the counting process or results. Official results are not certified until all validly cast ballots have been counted, including ballots that are counted after election night.”
The Facebook post is inaccurate. We rate it False.https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/04/facebook-posts/battleground-states-did-not-stop-counting-votes-el/
And if you’re going to be contrary, actually debunk the facts I present – which nobody has been able to do so far. And not with unreliable sources, such as conspiracy sites (NaturalNews, GatewayPundit, Fox, Newsmax, Lindell, etc). I’ll just laugh at your gullibility. Harsh, perhaps, but you’ve had more than a year to do a SIMPLE 5-MINUTE SEARCH on ANY of your conspiracy theories or “evidence”, and you either can’t be bothered to do the most basic of basic research (making “do your own research” such an ironic phrase), or you just reject reality when it doesn’t line up with your preconceived notions (which must happen quite constantly).
The preceding rant obviously applies to those *still* in the cult, not those who’ve left (like me) or were never in it in the first place.